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christmas vacation in hawaii. congress is back in town, but little progress was made over the holiday to avoid the fiscal cliff and no talks have been set. the senate is due in session today, but the house has no plans to reconvene. last week, house speaker john boehner said it was up to the house to act on extending unemployment benefits. as we work through all of this, we are happy to be joined by allen capper, head of credit strategy at lloyd's for the hour. welcome back. i guess we're still shaking off the christmas turkey tryptophan, i guess they call it, and yet it feels as though it's groundhog's day. >> yes. you say shaking off the christmas blues and we're shaking still waiting to hear what happened with this fiscal cliff. we knew they would take it to the wire. there's no surprises. what concerns me, this may stretch on until january. now, this is not the first time we've been in a situation like this in my career in the markets. the opportunity is clearly markets may sell off and then an accord has to be reached. i guess a lot of people will be seeing that. >> what are you
are we in the usa imitating failure? did you know that california and new york and hawaii are also poised to hit their richest people with a greater than 50% tax rate? isn't that great? emulate france. here now is jim pethokoukis of the american enterprise institute. jim, i thought we wanted to emulate success, not furl. >> i thought so, too. listen, the president wants to run an experiment and see how high we can crank up tax rates in this country without it hurting economic growth. they're already running it in europe, in france, in great britain. the entire european experiment here has been one of tax hike austerity. even though they focus on the spending cuts, you're talking about a high tax area raising taxes even higher. we're trying to to do the same thing here. >> least the brits have the humility to acknowledge their mistake. they took the rate from 40% 050%. millionaires left the island. now they're coming back and dropping it to 45%. at least the brits have some humility. the french don't seem to have any. those socialists are going to go down with the ship. >> they're going to
the president's going to be flying back from vacation in hawaii today. a lot of people making something of that. i don't know what it means ultimately. >> well, one thing it means -- >> a show of something. >> if i had to get back from hawaii at a minute's notice, you know what it would be. the president will have an easier time of it, i think. right? >> i noticed a couple of news reports saying the cost of the last-minute flight is about $250 -- >> he's the president, he's allowed. he's not going to be like in -- you know, transferring in san francisco or l.a. or something. and hoping that flight isn't -- i think he can just sort of -- >> the good news. >> he can probably work on the way back. >> yeah. no -- >> at his desk or do what, you know, whatever. he may be able to play sports. there's no basketball court on air force one. right? or putting green? >> no. but i think that -- they might have an xbox or something. >> yeah, if we play virtual golf or -- hoops or something. all right. >>> as for the markets, stocks turning in double digit gains in 2013. nine of the 10 s&p sectors looked in p
. president obama cutting his trip to hawaii short to work a deal that could avoid the fiscal cliff in a few days. we'll break down what's at stake in "your money." >>> if you got fewer presents under the tree, you may be ready. spending numbers are coming in, and they're not pretty. >>> plus, new numbers for apple's ipad mini and more. that's coming up on "worldwide exchange." >>> good morning and welcome to a special edition of "worldwide exchange." i'm jackie deangelis along with seema mody. ross and kelly are off for boxing day. they'll be back tomorrow. >> that's right. >>> let's get a brief check on the markets this morning. energy and metals are trading at this hour on the nymex. you see crude oil up .6%. brent crude also up. and take a look t yellow metal, gold. down just fractionally. now u.s. futures will begin trading in about a half-hour. the cme globex has been closed for christmas and will reopen at 6:00 a.m. eastern time. that also goes for treasuries and the foreign exchange market. >>> as for the action in the overseas market, the youu.k. is closed for boxing day as are brit
. on to the fiscal cliff this morning. the president cutting his vacation short in hawaii. the president plans to leave for washington tonight. congress expected to return on thursday. president, guys, not expected to actually arrive in washington until tomorrow morning. no talks scheduled that we know of as of yet. all the attention's going to turn to the senate, which tends to be more of a compromising body than the house is. >> yes. and the president is available in person if you should want to go over there and visit with him. or perhaps if he wants to visit with anybody else. the consensus seems to be if you get some sort of a deal, it's obviously not going to be the big deal. it will simply be something that extends the tax cuts for the vast majority of americans, at least those earning less than $250,000 a year. the consensus seems to be, carl, that if we don't get a deal by the second or third or fourth week, the super bowl week, we'll start to feel it in the economy. >> we had a notable sell-off. there is typically a bias on christmas eve, but the worst christmas eve performance for t
, they talked very nicely to one of the passengers, probably offered him, i don't know what, flights to hawaii or something, just to accommodate me in first class. >> you automatically get up graded now? i mean, do you have to pay for first class? or is it all coach -- >> i buy first class because it's important for me to be comfortable with all the flying i do. like i said, people say oh, how can you do it? i fly first class, and united, by the way, they have cnbc, "squawk box," on the flight this morning. >> they do. >> yes, they do. quite a few flights that show your show. >> what do you mean you fly first class? you don't pay first class? >> i negotiate a rate because of the extreme amount of travel i do. >> does anyone really pay those first -- i mean -- >> people do. >> not as much. they -- obviously upgrades is a very popular commodity -- >> upgrade frequent flyers? >> you can upgrade with miles. you can copay. there's a lot of different ways to upgrade. the average flyer kind of ge gets -- kind of has been spoiled through, you know, before united went bankrupt -- >> spoiled? i don't th
his hawaii vie cation today. at the top of this hour, expecting any minute on the senate floor that harry reid might come and give us some comment and guidance here on where to expect fiscal cliff talks to go over the next 48 hours or so. we know that the house of representatives will not be in session today but speaker bain he or she conferencing in his colleagues on a phone call this afternoon, all that up against a monday deadline. now we are told by game leadership that they will advise their numbers by saturday if they are going to bring them back into washington for a vote on anything on monday if there is a deal. there you see the united states senate is coming into session is this morning. we are going to keep an eye out for those remarks from senator reid, and of course, remarks on this fiscal cliff debacle have been moving the markets throughout the past couple of weeks, wait and see what harry reid has to say. guys, not a whole lot here to give those guys consumer confidence. >> the essence of poll takes what what we are seeing now this is no surprise, push comes to
in hawaii. the senate is coming back. the house of representatives meanwhile is going to hold a conference call for all republicans later on today. but it's not clear that all these folks, including the president, are going to have much to do when they do come back to town. there's no deal pending on the table here on the fiscal cliff and we're creeping up here on new year's eve. and then yesterday, as you just mentioned, treasury secretary tim geithner really upped the ante in dramatic stakes in the fiscal cliff end game by saying that the united states is going to hit its borrowing limit on monday. now he said the treasury can put in place some extraordinary measures and it has some wiggle room there but he said that the doubt and uncertainty over the fiscal cliff really clouds the prospect of exactly when the united states is going to hit its debt ceiling, statutory borrowing limit. so, that all adds a whole element of drama to all this. and it's really not clear, guys, at this point, how this thing is going to get resolved. but the house has said that it would like the senate now to go
think that we're getting down to the wire here. president obama doesn't want to cancel his hawaii vacation, and harry reid's threatening to keep congress in session, again, for the third year, fourth year in a row. that could have been one of the things they talked about. but at this point, i'm not quite sure if boehner can really get a deeper spending cut deal. i think the most he's going to be able to get is a promise. >> keith boykin, the other thing when i was down in washington yesterday, on the phone with all these guys, is that basically the republicans are going to cave in. basically they're going to cut their losses. basically it's a strategic retreat, that's what i call it, and they will give the president, they will give him his middle class tax cuts, or extended tax cuts and the top rates are going up. now, what the gop gets in return for that i do not know. but i see a cave-in, keith. >> i think you're right. they have no choice, larry. i mean, there's no leverage. the tax rates are going to expire on december 31st, so on january 1st, regardless of whether they do not
continues to fester. >>> also, senator daniel inouye of hawaii passed away this afternoon at age 88. inouye was a senator for 50 years. he was a world war ii hero as well. inouye was awarded the medal of honor for actions he took in italy in 1945 as a member of the legendary 442 combat team composed entirely of japanese americans. may senator inouye rest in peace. >>> now back to some stock market work. stocks continue to discount a fiscal cliff solution of some kind. as i've suggested, they're reacting positively. how about a little optimism on that story? up next, some optimism. ...so as you can see, geico's customer satisfaction is at 97%. mmmm tasty. and cut! very good. people are always asking me how we make these geico adverts. so we're taking you behind the scenes. this coffee cup, for example, is computer animated. it's not real. geico's customer satisfaction is quite real though. this computer-animated coffee tastes dreadful. geico. 15 minutes could save you 15 % or more on car insurance. someone get me a latte will ya, please? come pre-filled with problems. enough is enough. intro
the most category? taking into account mortgage size and income. borrows in hawaii and washington, d.c. get the greatest benefit. from 3 to 5%. california hard hit, losing that reduction could hurt a lot. talking about hard hit, take a look at arizona, nevada and florida. does that really affect home buying when the bulk of buyers in those states are investors who don't use mortgages? the answer, probably not. now i want it highlight new york and new jersey. they are on the high end of what you get from the tax benefit. and they desperately need buyers. two states have huge foreclosure backlogs. they need brisk buy flg order to eat up that distress. we want to keep that in perspective. people say taking away this deduction will raise home prices and drop purchasing power. but we have to remember that the interest deduction is used by 27% of borrowers. what is interesting is that older americans are getting hit with it more because they usually would move out of their large homes by now and they today stay in place because they weren't able to sell during the housing crash. guys? >> diana, d
and local taxes. hawaii is above 50, as well. >> hawaii is worth it, though. >> california is not bad either. >> unless you need to drive somewhere. right? and don't have a helicopter. >> there's a reason the president takes a helicopter anywhere. you can't drive in d.c. sdl those a >> boston in the city can get like that. last night i was thinking in my mother was still alive, cincinnati versus here, she would see like ten cars an and go oh, i can't believe people -- if she had seen the line of buss that basically was a wall of about 60 buses, they get precedence to go in, and then like 16 other lanes getting down to one to go into the tunnel, and you're just sitting there, like no within in the world does this. >> i got stuck in a broken down truck in the holland tunnel last night. it's amazing how fast they get that truck up and out. >> they better because there are fumes and everything else. but if you try to go from pasadena at the wrong time in l.a., it's three hours. in other news out of the financial services industry, jpmorgan is naming co-chief control officers the new positions ar
, isn't it? >> the president is scheduled to go to hawaii a week from today. >> it's boehner and obama. >> there are things, there's a telephone. understand, they have phone service in ohio and hawaii. >> there's an urgency here that dave cody gets. why? because he has said, i'm not hiring until we get this stuff fixed. now, why doesn't that -- well, everybody, the job, small business job creator. come on, man. honeywell hires. that means other towns do great. that means you get into a very virtuous cycle mode. david, it is not about the small businessman. the little businessman doesn't do well unless the big businessman does well. >> who are they selling to? >> honeywell just hired 200 people. >> no doubt about it. >> the opening bell here at the new york stock exchange for a friday. top of the screen, the s&p 500. nasdaq, avago technologies. >> single-family rentals, homes for rent, single-family rentals, that's the way it's sort of getting all that notion, at least today that some people are locked out of credit. they are renters, or renters nation. >> the real estate investment tru
saved on at least $2,000 with this deduction. on the flip side, borrowers in washington, d.c., hawaii and california, they're getting the biggest tax benefit in the $3,000 to $4,000 range. new york and new jersey are also way up there, thanks to high home values and income. and i'm noting them because these two states need home buyers, desperately. they have some of the biggest backlogs of distressed properties and need buyers in there absorbing that distress. taking away the deduction takes away one more reason to buy. $2,000 to $5,000 a year is a big savings. but we have to keep this in perspective. you only get the deduction if you itemize an only about one-third of americans do itemize. just 27% taking the deduction. and i want to note one other thing, older americans, 54% of families ages 55 to 64 are carrying mortgage debt. that's way up from 37% in 1989, because during the housing crash they were unable to move. so that's going to hit them hard as well. especially for the next several years. melissa? >> some very interesting figures. diana, thanks for that report. back at headq
is confirming that it has plans for a sed set country in india. >>> but first, the hawaii senator daniel inouye died at the age of 8837 he's a veteran and war hero. he was the senate pro item. >>> welcome back to squawk this morning. applemaker is confirming plans for a hand set factory in indonesia. foxconn now saying no timeline has been set. it would cost $5 billion to $10 billion following worker deaths, sudz and other things foxconn and apple has set pledged to bridge a new building steemt. >>> leo g ray kowski is the asset managements. really, leo? do you oversee $178 billion? >> i have a lot of help, swroe. >> that sounds like you would have a lot more wrinkles and look a lot more haggard if you had that responsibility. if we get a cliff deal which is looking closer, are our problems over in terms of this sort of market that's been stuck in the mud for a decade, do you think? >> i think a lot depends on time frame, but no is the short answer to your question. i think, you know, markets being discounting mechanisms, i think it's very unlikely that here in the short-term, we get the type o
of minutes. in the meantime -- >> they are gentlemen. >> in the meantime, the president is in hawaii on vacation. washington lawmakers are on holiday. there's still no deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. the deadline is a week away. hampton pearson is in washington on the stalemate. >> as early as the day after christmas, congress and the white house will have to start to deal with what president obama called the real consequences of going over that fiscal cliff. >> nobody can get 100% of what they want. and this is not simply a contest between parties in terms of who looks good and who doesn't. there are real world consequences to what we do here. >> a short-term deal won't just focus on tax rates. the end of the payroll tax cut and the impact of the hike in the minimum tax on january 1st. over the weekend, we did hear from some republican moderates who say it may in fact be time to make some kind of a move. >> the president's statement is right, no one wants taxes to go up on the middle class. i don't want them to go up on anybody. but i'm not in the majority in the united states senat
affected. but also hawaii, a big percent comes from defense spending. the green is nondefense. ala kass, new mexico, kentucky. so we talk about $620 billion being spread across the economy that will be individual hits to individual states and individual people that will be hit harder if this qulif does take effect. >> some sobering numbers. >>> the phrase that got the most nominations on the list of words to be banished, fiscal cliff. so we want to know what other phrases should be banned and why? tweet us. we have your responses coming up next. [ male announcer ] at scottrade, you won't just find us online, you'll also find us in person, with dedicated support teams at over 500 branches nationwide. so when you call or visit, you can ask for a name you know. because personal service starts with a real person. [ rodger ] at scottrade, seven dollar trades are just the start. our support teams are nearby, ready to help. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... [ all ] i'm with scottrade. it's no wonder so many investors are saying... i've always kept my eye on her... but with so much
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